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  • alanwilliams

    This proposal was discussed in our residency group in the spring. While the underlying vision of encouraging younger people to step in to their call earlier instead of later is a good one, and certainly it may be appropriate for the clergy mentors and district committees on ordained ministry to discuss and explore ALL options for ministry for all candidates, and particularly those who are about to expend a substantial amount of time, energy, and money in pursuing one form of ministry - ordained ministry - including older candidates who may not appreciate the many opportunities to serve in the United Methodist Church - I think the outright ban on ordination for those who do discern the call, and feel the call so strongly that they are willing to devote their lives to fulfilling it, IS an unnecessary step, and IS kinda mean spirited. We preach (or should preach) that the journey for each of us is different - some come to know Christ at an early age, for others, it may be many years before the prevenient grace of God's love is accepted. Likewise, we are all on our journey of responding to God's calling on our lives in different ways and at different speeds. I can confidently say that some of the most insightful and helpful preaching and teaching I've heard has come from clergy who were late coming to the game -- their life of experiences and encounters either as pre-Christians or lay members made them much better equipped to reach a LOT of people who, likewise, had skirted God's call on their lives for many decades.

    I am thankful that this issue has been put to rest -- although the underlying concern still remains; how do we help younger people to discern, hear and heed their calling in their early life? I'll leave most of that work to the Holy Spirit -- but maybe this is a good opportunity to re-imagine the whole process to make the entry into ministry for young adults less daunting, especially in regards to accumulating debt that would embarrass any of us to get the diplomas necessary to even begin! :)

  • Russ Clunan

    Can't we just be thankful for anyone who answers God's call to the ministry

    • ColtsFan254

      When most of our conferences are going to have over half of our clergy eligible for retirement in the next 10 years this seems a false controversy. We of course need to encourage people of all ages who are called to the ordained or pastoral ministries to enter them. At the same time, we need to especially encourage younger persons called to enter the ministry.
      Neither of these two encouragements alone will be enough to meet our clergy needs in the future, however. We have several coming crises in the UMC in the United States. We seem to be doing little to address the real issues that we will be facing and both their underlying causes and their practical solutions.
      I am afraid that we have nearly exhausted our energies in false controversies that have drained our denomination (in the US) of any real vitality. We are slowly marching towards either death or a rebirth that will be a radical departure from our current failing institutional systems.

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        Gin

        There is enough discrimination in the ordination process, there is no need to add ageism to the mix.

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          gary

          Rev Bruse - in 20-30 years the UMC in the US will not need as many clergy since the US UMC drops by about 1% per year. in 30 years the UMC will have about 2.4 million less members if current trends continue.

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            Rev Beth

            I finally responded to my call at 44. I don't take this age suggestion personally at all. People said to me that the conference was investing tuition money in older students who wouldn't have long ministries. (20 years isn't long) I asked how many of the pastors in your ordination class are still active? Usually it was less than half. I am a much better pastor at 45 or now at 61 than I ever would have been had I started at 24. However, I am always impressed with the younger pastors that I know and hope we help each transform the world for Jesus Christ.

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              Kevin Wrigley

              The primary question is (or should be) has this person been called to pastoral ministry by the Spirit? Such discernment is key and should never be secondary to any human made rule of exclusion no matter how well meaning.

              • Susan Taylor

                For my comments on this article, please go to http://revdrsusant.com/2013/08...

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                  Lyle M Miller Sr

                  I regret to say I believe the United Methodist Church is moving further and further away from the gospel of Jesus Christ and moving toward the gospel of the world where the challenge to repent and turn back to God and God's will is being denied in many congregations. I also believe that this is a direct result of the liberal agenda which is unwilling to turn around and turn toward the Lord.

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                    Merrilee Slatonn

                    How dare you, I am 71 and since God had me caring for my family for over 50 years I was unable to complete my education and work in the ministry until now. After being a member of the Methodist Church for 60 of my 71 years I now feel disenfranchised and since a couple of other denominations have offered me positions within their ministry I will be leaving the Methodist Church with deep regret and moving on to a more positive environment.